Sunday, the Rabbi...

Monday, August 25, 2008

Sunday, the Rabbi...

...was in Denver, and he did help launch the Democratic National Convention.

It was a great honor for Rabbi Marc Schneier as well as his two Synagogues.


1. 'amme said...

I say to the Rabbi in order to honor balance, bend your brain round this:
Without desire, entropy would end all life.

The desire for 'more better' is embedded in life, driving innovation and transformation.

He is the one that is biased against the rest of humanity!

One of the poster's more inscrutable Comments.
– Dean

2. 'amme said...

Eruvs{sic} serve to create a larger private domain. In order to consider an area a private domain, the area must cover at minimum an area of about 12 square feet and must be somehow demarcated from its surroundings, either by a wall of some sort or by virtue of its topography (that is, it is either all higher or all lower than its surroundings).

Eruvs{sic} serve to create a larger private domain. The reason Jews construct eruvin is, according to most Rabbinic authorities, that the shared public space within an eruv is considered the private domain of a community.

Query: If the eruv were approved and the temple were granted permission to install eruv, what would happen if the installer fell while installing? Would that person sue the Village or the Temple?

Asking permission of a municipality is admitting that it is public property and not private as in to create a larger private domain.

Far too recondite for these ol' headbones, but if that's your understanding of eruvin, it wasn't mine.

Hoping for some clarity here.

3. NoLongerEd said...

That's inscrutable.

Yeah? Well where were you when I needed you?!?
Thank you, Michael.

4. 'amme said...

Some clarity. From all that I have read it seems the Rabbi is unwilling to compromise on even a neutral meeting of the faiths to discuss/or inform the very community that he asks to place a piece of PVC on the utility poles. If that is all that it is he asking for, then why can't he bless a bunch of pieces of PVCs and give them to his people and they can wear them around their necks and go anywhere?

"The tree that does not bend with the wind will be broken by the wind." - Mandarin Chinese proverb

You aren't the only one who hasn't been paying attention... Rabbi Schneier isn't looking for a solution, he's looking for an eruv. His prestige is at stake, and if it turns Westhampton Beach into a free-fire zone, it doesn't matter to him.

5. 'amme said...


6. Straightshooter said...

One thing I've yet to read concerning eruvin (though somebody may have asked already) is why are they needed in the first place? Instead of asking for a "Proclamation" to allow observant Jews to do something proscribed by their "rules," wouldn't it just be easier to allow the proscribed activity? The reason I say this (and put the word "rules" in quotes) is because I know from experience that rules, and finding ways around them, might be considered a good way to describe some aspects of Observant Jewish life.

Take the "Sabbath Elevator," for example. It's considered "work" to push the button on an elevator, but not to ride in one. So at resorts catering to observant Jews, Yeshiva University housing, etc. the elevator is programmed to stop at every floor on the Sabbath and certain holidays. Problem solved!

In the absence of some Grand Rabbi changing the rules to allow mothers to either push a baby carriage or carry their baby when attending synagogue, why isn't the approval already received from LIPA and Verizon to put the PVC pipe on their poles enough to establish the eruv? I think what bothers most people (besides some of the attitudes involved) is the need for action by the Village. (By the way, before posting I did minimal reseach on eruvin. Isn't it a shame that Westhampton Beach is listed on Wikepedia in their explanation of eruvin under the "Controversies" banner?)

I have mixed feelings about the eruv. I hate to see anti-Semitism, but I also hate to see precious Village resources wasted on the subject. As I mentioned before, the limitations that would be lifted by the establishment of the eruv are self-imposed. Why does the rest of the community have to get involved?

One final thing - why is the comments box so damn small? It's very hard to tell if my paragraphs are too long.

I believe the contracts with LIPA and Verison are already in place.

And don't worry... the words every male wants to hear... your length was just fine.
– Dean

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